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How Would You Respond to a Miracle?

Post Author: Bill Pratt 

I just finished a detailed study of the seven miraculous signs Jesus performed in the Gospel of John.  If you don’t recall, they are:

  1. The Miracle of Turning Water Into Wine
  2. The Miracle of Healing the Nobleman’s Son
  3. The Miracle of Healing the Man at the Pool of Bethesda
  4. The Miracle of Feeding Five Thousand
  5. The Miracle of Walking on Water
  6. The Miracle of Healing the Blind Man
  7. The Miracle of Raising Lazarus from the Dead

The fascinating thing about these miracle accounts is how people reacted to them.  There is a wide cross-section of responses.  The way I would summarize the responses is in the following way:

  1. Some people responded by believing in Jesus as the Messiah and Son of God, and dedicating their lives to him, which is exactly the purpose John gives for writing his Gospel (see John 20:30-31).
  2. Some people responded by believing in Jesus, but only in a shallow way.  These people would have eternal life, but their growth as followers of Jesus was static and stunted.  They did not move beyond their initial belief.
  3. Some people responded by believing in Jesus as a political figure who could solve their earthly problems for them.  They did not believe in him as the Messiah and Son of God.
  4. Some people responded in disbelief and outright hatred and rejection.  These people felt threatened by Jesus’ growing popularity and his rejection of their traditions.  Ultimately,  some of these people had Jesus executed.

It is my contention that these miracles act like a mirror for each person that saw them.  The miracles, for those who loved God and were willing, confirmed their hope for a true Messiah.

For those who wanted a political savior, Jesus’ miracles confirmed their hope in him as a “political Messiah.”

For those who wanted to retain their own autonomy and power, Jesus’ miracles did nothing but agitate them.  There was no miracle he could perform that would convince them.

Where the heart is willing,  evidence, such as miracles, can be quite convincing.  Where the heart is not willing, no amount of evidence will do.

As an apologist, this frustrates me to no end.  I have spent years amassing evidence for Christianity, which I think is thoroughly convincing, but many times I present that evidence to people who are completely unwilling to listen.  I’ve just learned to roll with it, though, because I also present evidence to people who are willing to listen, and that always makes my day!

Which kind of person are you?  Which group would you fall in?  If you are someone who no amount of evidence can convince, then why is that?

Just some food for thought.


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  • http://guide-spirituel.blogspot.com Anulee

    Hi,

    Just to say that your site is nice.I’ve discovered a really good site with real videos of miracles all around the world.

    Here it is :http://guide-spirituel.blogspot.com

  • Bill Pratt

    Thank you for the encouragement!

    God bless,
    Bill

  • Don Davis

    Fantastic! Really encouraging stuff. I love the miracles of Jesus and believe they show us that Jesus was God on earth and the long expected Messiah. Praise the Lord.

  • akilles1

    about1-7,that kind off “miracles” or what yuo wanna call them dont exist att all,usually that kind off “miracles” are the stupid etc ones explenation,when we dont know what really happent and why,yuo points 1-7 noone even can prove that they happent att all,If they happent we should know that everyting have a true suorce,things etc. whit dont have a true natural explenation or suorce,simply dont exist att all!(The human fantasies etc.are on other thing,we all have them.)Greetings aki@aol.se

  • akilles1

    Aki ( giggles)If Jesus have the power to do that kind off miracles like in 1-7,why did he not liberate himself from the romain cross suffering,or help yuo when yuo suffer? Or the millions who already died or gone die in naturecatastofies?Etc!If yuo have that kind off powers,Why waste time in turning water to wine when it is more importent to safe only one humenlife?

  • Patricia Meehan

    Oh dear. I guess our last writer is one who, at the moment, will not believe no matter what. But, I wanted to say to the person who is into apologetics; it is wonderful what you are doing. But, we cannot know which people are the ones who have been touched and will respond positively. This we have to leave in God’s hands and pray that, at least, you have planted the seed. I know people who were missionaries in Pakistan for 38 years and they never knew if they had lead anyone to Jesus. But, they left it all in God’s hands and believed He had them there to do just what they did.

  • Bill Pratt

    How do you know they did not happen? I have a historical document telling me they did occur. What is your evidence that this document (the Gospel of John) is wrong? Have you ever read it?

  • Bill Pratt

    Jesus’ death on the cross ensured that all humankind could be reconciled with God. Without Jesus’ death, mankind would be forever alienated from the God that created us. So he did save countless human lives.

    “For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.  For God did not send his Son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.”
    The Holy Bible : New International Version (Grand Rapids: Zondervan, 1996, c1984), Jn 3:16-17.

  • Bill Pratt

    Yes, Patricia, that is very true. I completely agree with you. It is very comforting to know that God is ultimately in control. If that weren’t true, I would be one stressed out apologist!

  • akilles1

    Hi, do yuo understand an other language than English?Im a finlander who lives in sweden and my best languages are Swedish and Finnish,but I try to use our English and when I dont find the english word I use swedish in (parantes)like that.Ok,I think yuo mean that in the future the Cristian God is ready to make a better word without suffering etc, sounds strange to me,Why not TODAY?Why experiment?If a chield are suffering in front off yuo in pain ,yuo try do to someting,if yuo son or douthter are bleding now yuo dont wait to long to give him or her (plåster).For.ex when god dont give us cure faster shows to me he have limited powers and dont care about us in more personal level etcIf god exists which also are nonproven.Yuo mean thatsome off the things they say in the christian bible are confirmed by supernatural=of or involving a power above the forces off nature,well now “we” have a great problem,because nothing supernatural exists!I think,Show me a God who can wipe out only one natural law or energy for.ex?!Tao says for.ex.If we allow everything to do,the things they do by their true nature,the nature off everything is gono be pleased,what do yuo think off that principle,I understand if it is “new”for yuo,but for a taost its older than the Christian bible I think.

  • akilles1

    Jesus or some other person havent still proven to me that jesus died and resudcitet and that jesus even was the son off god or existed att all,and dont muslims believe he was somekind off profet instead off the sun off the God!?!I believe more in that Santa Claus (Jultomten)comes back more often every Christmas compered with that Jesus died and come back from his own dead,or ever gono came back,where are yuo Jesus Right now?Or today?Or when yuo really need him?

  • akilles1

    Yuo say that the Cristianbible are Gods word,yes but it is written by humans with a limited intellectual and other capacitys and are their own interpretation about Gods intentions etc.and noone I think have still the final answeer about Gods intentions etc.If yuo belive the bible are 100%true yuo also admit that thouse who write the bible are better and smarter etc. than yuo and dont trust yuo own capacity as much as the bible writers,Im always open for fresh new ideas about everything cause we havent find the final trueth,thats a tao principle also.

  • Bill Pratt

    You don’t know if Jesus existed at all? Read the series of posts I wrote on whether the New Testament is historically reliable. There are eight of them in a series, but they should not take that long to read. Go to this link and all eight posts will be there. These posts should help you see that Jesus really existed.

  • akilles1

    Try to definite God ,one explenation to me are that God are the everlasting source to the moust superior superreallity terrain etc.What are God to yuo then really?I think that Tao,god or automaticaleverlasting natural forces are the suorce whit “proggram” our complicated brain and soul.Remember that creation in case off pringing someting to existencefromnothing without energy or natural laws dont exist are my point.So dont use words like creation when yuo communicate with me.

  • akilles1

    I dont remember all the bible storys,some off them have synomeous and allogreas etc. meaning,but if they for.ex mean that Jesus made wine off water ,without using natural laws or forces ,but throuht using supernatural powers,we are talking with whithenis etc. who are liers,and I dont like and respect liers,do yuo?Im not here to judge anyone,Im muostly “here” to find out what really are true!That one thing which drives me,what “drives”(driver el.ger anledning till ditt sökande)you them?

  • akilles1

    To me it doesent matter if Jesus died on the cross or not,noone have proven that it have any effect att all later about the humanities suffering etc.and it is wery onlocical to me that god The allmighty let Jesus his only beloved son suffer so much on the cross because the suffering still exists,Why try to cure something with MORE suffering?when the end result are still more suffering???!!Or Suffering in Balance etc.Its better do not suffer att all them,thouse kind off things also show me that The cristian god are not Allmighty and that Tao are the real “boss” etc.

  • akilles1

    Then I think yuo mean that the Cristian bible dont need new ideas or have to be more true or develop etc.Well,its look to me that yuo know yuo bible very well,then tell me were in the cristian bible it shows when yuo have 1 the right to kill a animal OR humen a been.2 the right to eat animal or human flesh?Thouse two things allredy have happent,when the allmighty God but a human been in the situations,and the “do or die erlier priciple goes in a survival situation etc.But what are the right highest moral act etc.to do in this case assert or in force off the cristian bible,I have a own solution without the “bible”I might tell it later,depending on yuo reaction to this moral question.

  • akilles1

    And what to yuo think about the “mormon bible”moral when a mormon man are allowed to have several wiwes but the mormon female dont?(If am right informed.)In this case the Cristian bible have higher values when yuo only have one wife.But I dont have a wife at all and dont get married in a Cristian or other kind off chirke att all and give ritaul promised I cannot keep,that my own principle to avoid problems.And Im a very happy libered single who lives in a liberated community where i can do that chouse.In Sweden even now lesbian and homosexual couples are allowed to marry,but I dont think they allow homosexual cristian priests here in sweden,but am not sure,what are the situation in UsA in thouse kind off cases?

  • akilles1

    Well,I can believe that Jesus existed for real,but the Cristian bible interprenting about he is the son off God,and died on the cross off the reasons given throught cristian interprentions in the bible dont have to be true necessarily,remember that the romens etc.crussifead criminals and rebellius thinkers in a routin(rutinmässigt)by the time Jesus are supposetto live.

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  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    I can understand most of what you’re typing in English. I have traveled to Finland and Sweden a couple times on business, since Finland is the home of Nokia and Sweden is the home of Ericsson, two customers of our company. I have always been impressed with how well most Finns and Swedes speak English. Let’s jst say I don’t know any Finnish or Swedish!

    Bill

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    You ask why doesn’t God stop the show today and get on with the new creation? The answer is that he is patiently waiting for more people to believe in Him and what he has done for them through the death and resurrection of Jesus, his Son.

    You see, when the show ends, all those who have rejected God will be separated from all those who have loved God. Those who have rejected God will forever be separated from the source of all goodness, God.

    It is because God is merciful that he is not ending the show yet, not because he is cruel. He knows that eternal separation from him is the worse thing any human being could suffer.

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    You say that if everything does what is in its nature, than the nature of everything will be pleased. What does that mean? Is the “nature of everything” a person? If not, how could it be pleased?

    Thanks,
    Bill

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    You said that nothing supernatural exists. How do you know that?

    Bill

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    If you are always open to new ideas, then why are you rejecting Christianity? It seems that you are not open to new ideas. Tao teaches that you should be listening to what I have to say and carefully considering it with an open mind. Are you doing that?

    Let me explain how we believe the Bible was written. We believe that God inspired the human authors of the Bible to write what they wrote. We believe that the human authors wrote exactly what God wanted them to write, but that they were not dictated to. The final product is a perfect combination of God and man contributing.

    So the biblical authors wrote with the help of God. That doesn’t mean they are better or smarter than anyone else. It just means God chose them to communicate to us.

    Bill

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    We know that natural forces have not always existed. The theory of relativity and evidence from the Big Bang origination of the universe have shown that all the laws of nature came into existence about 13.8 billion years ago. Only a force that exists outside the laws of nature (a supernatural force) could have brought the universe into existence, because there were no natural laws before the Big Bang.

    If you want a definition of God, He is the personal, all-powerful, all-good, all-knowing, all-wise, immaterial, eternal, uncaused, supernatural creator of the universe. Every human owes their very existence to God, and that is one reason why we should love and worship him.

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    I recommend you read the Gospel of John to see what it’s about. No offense, but you don’t seem to really rememeber or understand much of what Christianity teaches, which is proably because you’ve never really investigated it.

    I agree with you that if the writers of the Bible were liars and what they recorded was false, then nobody should be a Christian. I am not interested in following a religion of lies. I hope you aren’t either.

  • Bill Pratt

    You are only thinking of physical suffering. Jesus did indeed heal many people of their physical illnesses, as did his disciples. Many Christians have reported healings for the last 2,000 years, so God is definitely in the physical healing business.

    But, what is more important to God is our spiritual healing. Mankind’s biggest problem is that we are alienated from the source of all that is good in the universe, God. Jesus’ death and resurrection made it possible for all mankind to be reunited with God and spend their lives forever with him in a new and perfect world.

    Christians, Jews, and Muslims (and many other religous folks) believe that our lives on earth compose only a small fraction of our total existence. We will have after-lives which last much longer than our lives on earth. God sent Jesus to make sure that our after-lives are spent with God rather than away from God. He allows some pain in this life to make sure that our next life is spent in the presence of a perfect being, God.

  • akilles1

    Hihow much Finnish or Swedish doyuo understand 1-50 or 70%for.ex?You mean that God is not cruel,but yuo god are croel because tzunamies with killed good people happent,or else a good God dont exist who cares about humanityetc. we are left alone to take care and try to solve our problems by our own capacity,no God is gono save us from us selfes,yuo should relize that.The nature are “pleased” by automatic nonpersonal yin and yang balance seaking forses for.ex.They are impartial to our suffering but teach us to avoid suffering by pleasure creature stimulance.A hungry tiger who eat a antilope are either god or bad,only tryuin to survive for.ex.and keep tao balance.The time is also gonna come when the sun swallow the whole earth because off Emc2 if any life forms exist on erth they have to leave the solar system if they cannot control the sun,no Jesus or prairs is gonna help us them,this is gono take billions off years in the future,tao is only showing its force even them,still impartial and nonpersonal.

  • akilles1

    its more locical that moustly only natural things exists and no supernatural things ,no supernatural things have ever even been proven to exist.I believe in fact and things whit are proven,because it safer and better and gives somekind off results so I can go further.I dont believe that a humen been can finally write in a bibel etc. what god are about hes attentions etc.therefore the cristian bible are not the finel trueth,it only gives us tracks to follow god.Only God himself can know finelly “God himself”.Or else he is not the highes allmighty cause etc.

  • akilles1

    God naturalforces energy or something else existed before big bang if Bigbang happent,it can also be cyclic like they believe in hinduism for.ex.a brahma year there are wery near what modern cosmology says about our universies age,so other religions than cristiannity can have advanced explenations in cosmology etc.The latest theories say by the way that there are several universies and parallel worlds etc.And “our big bang” are a collision between alredy existing Universies or membranes etc.Like I told yuo something always exists even when we always dont obseve it or know it,that what tao also mean.

  • akilles1

    I agree if yuo mean that God are a eternal(evig)force,I also agree about the other things yuo say about God,but not in for ex. that God are a supernatural creator and all-god and that we have to worship God or that Jesus did “healing”with help from a supernatural force or God as a suorce!(Amen)Aki gigles.

  • akilles1

    (A.gigles)This is Finnish and I get Impressed if yuo can translate it to english”Halleluuja,Kalle juoksi pitkin kujaa,Pirun lujaa”.

  • akilles1

    This is Swedish and a trueth and fact yuo cannot change”Det alltid varande äro alltid varande”.I dont find the English right translation.

  • akilles1

    I believe in For.ex Carl Sagan more than Jesus Because Carl sagan are a more real person to me who I can investigate,do the experimemts he did a confirm that they work etc. but the persons in the Cristian bible are so “far away ” from me in time and space so I cannot trust them or find out what really happent and what really are true about the bible storeys,like when Jesus make wine off water,if it dont have a symbolic or that kind off meaning.But things like “be agianst others like yuo want others to be against you” sounds smart and I believe and trust in that,but I also should mension that I think konfusios in Taosm say that thing also 500 years before Jesus so the Cristian bible are not unigue.The modern Carl Sagan by the way,(If I translate it right from my Swedish cosmos bok)sayd”The COSMOS is all that is or ever was or ever will be” so other writers than thouse from the christian bible can say “interesting”things.Right?!

  • akilles1

    If yuo dont wanna read my Tao bible I dont have to read yuo Christian bible,but I gono end this message with some tao principals which should explain a whole lot to us.”Who really knows or can tell why the Heaven allow some things to happen?Even the wise one get mutelated sometimes. The way off Heaven:Dont compete,but are an excellent winner.Dont talk that much,but answeer when the right question are askt the right way.Dont demand so much,but are obeyd.seems caotic to the nonprofound,but reveal an EXCELLENT and one off the grandest off plans to the profound one.The tao multi bubble heavens net are thrown widest around,and even if its cyclic galaxyphilament loops are so big,nothing ever gets lost!”(Amen)(A.gigles)others than Cristian priets can also preach,if they have too.

  • Bill Pratt

    If you believe in facts and things that are proven, they why do you believe in Tao? Have scientists proven tao, ying, and yang exist? Of course not, so you don’t just believe in facts and things which are proven. You believe what you want to believe, and believing in an impersonal force is more attractive to you than a personal and moral God. Why is that?

  • Bill Pratt

    Ah, so you believe that something existed before the Big Bang even though physicists tell us that we can never know what that is from scientific observation, because this thing cannot be examined by our natural laws. Christians believe that is who God is. And it cannot be cyclical, as the oscillating universe theory has been disproven. In fact, you claim to believe in science, so you must know about the second law of thermdynamics, that the amount of energy available for work is decreasing. That demands that the universe had a beginning. If you posit other universes that created our universe, you are just backing up the problem one more step. Ultimately, there must have been a being which has always existed, no matter how many universes you introduce. We call that God. You call it something else. How do we decide who is right?

  • Bill Pratt

    Why don’t you believe God is good or that he is the creator of everything? Why are you against worshipping God?

  • Bill Pratt

    How is it that you say Jesus is too far away in time to trust, but you trust Confucius, who existed before Jesus? That doesn’t make sense. Clearly, it’s not just the fact that Jesus existed a long time ago that you don’t trust him. What is it really?

  • Bill Pratt

    I don’t understand the question. Please ask it in a different way?

  • Bill Pratt

    You cannot be committed and faithful to one woman, so that’s why you don’t marry? And what do you mean that you are living in a liberated community where you can do as you choose?

  • Bill Pratt

    If God wrote a book about himself, how would we know?

  • Bill Pratt

    I never said I wouldn’t read your Tao bible, but you have been making comments on a Christian blog about Christianity, and it is obvious that you have never really analyzed Christianity. Most of your views on it are incorrect. I am just suggesting that before you attack something, you first study it carefully.

  • Bill Pratt

    Do you believe in right and wrong, good and evil?

  • Bill Pratt

    Translation: “The ever existent being is always existing.”

    It’s a tautology, so it doesn’t really say anything. Of course, that which is ever-existent is always existing. I’m not sure what that has to do with our conversation, though.

  • akilles1

    Some replies from yuo e-mails to me,To save time I moustly gostraigt from the e-mails,it takes to much time for me to read all “szares” here om this sight.I can prove the yin yang polarity to yuo in a modern way by electronics for.ex study (your)car battery,yuo have a – and + pole there only change the names to yin and yang if the electrones (electricity)wander they have to have plus and minus or else the battery dont work, only – or + separeted alone from eith other dont make yuor startengine go around,but connected together it make yuo car engine start thats also yin and yang dynamicks explaint more medern.If yuo want more proves read The tao of physics written by Fritjof capra the bok(even in USA 1975.)hopefully yuo notice I can prove tao to yuo in a scientific way,while yuo havent really proven to me how Jesus makes wine off water etc.It should also make the wine producers more happy by less work.

  • akilles1

    Because noone can create something(like energy)from nothing i dont believe in a Creater God.Because yuo dont want for.ex yuo chilren to worship yuo their father we shouldent worship any Heavenly God or father etc.Here I want to separe worship from love.Love are ok worship not.I trust on Carl sagan ,Konfisius,Lau tzu etc. more than Jesus because only Jesus mean that hes the sun off God and only throught Jesus we can come to Heaven If I understood Jesus right in the Cristian way.Muslims dont mean that for.ex.

  • akilles1

    we cannot today anyway know what the right final God bok are because we have inferior imagination capacity about God .Only a God can descripe Himself the right final way.Tao by the way say something simular.Like I might tould yuo before,”THe superreallity terrain are superior its own interprenting map.”Maps in this case are for.ex. language,matematics text,words etc.think really in a profound way what this means!

  • akilles1

    Yes , I believe in right and wrong,good and somekind off evil.I also askt yuo when 1we have the right to kill a humen been.2 when we have the right to eat human flesh.I askt thouse two guestions straight ,to safe time and so we can find out what good and evil etc. really are and because I dont think yuo find the answeer in the Christian bible so yuo can “hide” behind it.

  • akilles1

    If yuo think my vievs off the christian bible are incorect ,show the right way them.I got the Swedish version off it att home but cannot remember all off it in my head.The first mosebok genesis says.(First lines)God Create the word.In the beginning God created the Heaven and the Earth,Right?In Swedish create are=skapa=to make something without energy or rawmaterial.Are the swedish “creation”translation wrong?Anyway I dont believe this because1 No beginning exists because off cyclic elapsies.2 no creation exists because energy for.ex always been existing.Right?!

  • akilles1

    By the way the Heaven for.ex can exist without God or “creation”I believe,what do yuo think about that?

  • akilles1

    also the light in Genesis can exist without god I think,but the light there can have a synonyme meaning.What are the moust right interpreting about the light they mension in Genesis them do yuo think?Its wery importent to me that allthings essecially in Genesis are correct and true,because it is in the Beginning off the Christian bible.

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    If yin and yang just refers to positive and negative electrical charges, then you’re right – it is proven. I thought yin and yang was a bit more than that, though.

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    You don’t know that creation from nothing is impossible. You don’t believe it because it does not fit your beliefs about the universe. To rule it out completely would be quite arrogant, don’t you think?

    Again, you seem to really be distressed about worship. What is the problem? If there is a creator-God who is responsible for our lives and all that is good in our lives, should we not worship him?

    I believe that every person worships something, even you. What is it that you give the highest priority in your life, that you think is the most important? That is what you worship.

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    You say we can’t know about God, but you think you know about God! You believe that your views about God (or the Tao) are correct. How do you know Confucius or any other writers on Taoism are correct? Maybe they have it completely wrong.

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    Where does right and wrong, good and evil come from?

    I have the right to kill another human when I am protecting my own life or the life another – in other words, self defense.

    As far as eating human flesh, I would think you would only do this if you were starving to death and a dead human being was the only available food for consumption.

    I fail to see how either of these questions get us anywhere, but there you are.

  • Bill Pratt

    Christians do believe God created from nothing, so you do understand that correctly. I am talking about many of the other statements you have made about Christianity, and I have been showing you the correct way to understand Christianity whenever you say something incorrect. I am perfectly willing to teach you if you want to learn.

    I don’t know what cyclic elapses are and how do you know energy has always been existing? You have no evidence for this, but you keep saying it over and over. Give me an argument demonstrating that energy has always existed.

  • Bill Pratt

    I don’t believe anything can exist unless God created it, including heaven.

  • Bill Pratt

    I think the light referred to in Genesis is the light generated by stars, and especially the sun.

  • akilles1

    Hi,of cuorse yin and yang can be more than a electrical +- polarity,Im only tryin to understand it and explean with experiments yuo also can do scientific way cuase we live in the same reallity terrain.Time to wake upp,for.ex.E=mc2 are proven to work thats why stars for.ex shine it shows the egual worth between energy and mass,when a star diesand dont shine any longer mc2 disapper in a cycle but E are always there in some energy form,I thought yuo accept that something always exist, E are a part off that someting,therefore creation still dont exist,thats more science fact,than fiction.If genesis ( the Chistian bible one)talk about creation from nothing it is layin and all who belive that also liers,that one reason then why I dont wanna be Christian.

  • akilles1

    I dont wanna “worship”anything,I dont wanna be like a primitiv tribe member who worship strange gods like thor ,freja,manitou,Marduk,Zeus,Watantanka etc.with strange rituals and nonproven dogma.Even Christiannity got “strange”rituals,tao says about that,the rituals are the beginning off the CONFUSION!What do yuo think about that?By the way ,if I have to Worship something I can begin with the trueth and science for.ex.

  • akilles1

    I agree that we can kill a human been as a last possibily in self defence if we dont know the tao off Jet kun do as well as Bruce Lee for.ex.Also we have to eat humen flesh like thouse how survived that aircraft accedent in the antess,but not murder the other,but wait ontill the “lord”kills them,then we eath if we dont wannna do suisiteetc.answers to thouse hard guestions yuo dont find in yuo bible,but when yuo ask them to yuo self and find the right answeer,yuo find out who yuo really are and what kind off word the “lord” also have given us and it is not alwayas so nice and lovefull word.

  • akilles1

    I aint no expert on the Christian bible,but If yuo wanna be a “good” cristian yuo should know that the starlight in genesis are LATER refering on the two lights sun and moon for.ex. Cause sun rules the day and moon the night.THEN came the Stars,but BEFORE that they talk aboutthe GOOD light,or a symbolic light for the good,forces,illumination etc,but then again yuo never can be sure what they mean,thatsone off the Cristian bibles “problems”.Remember the first time Light are mensioned there are when God says,Let it be Light,the “star light are not the same light and came long after in genesis,It looks to me yuo dont read the bible so often either?Yuo might discover more true things somewhere else them?(Aki gigles)

  • akilles1

    Here is by the way ” Akis own”genesis Aki belive in more than the christian genesis and it explain whole lot off things,any more discussion after this shouldent be necessary.”The everlasting Cyclic and Cosmic superreallity terrain foreground natures simple and complecatet parts are intimate connected together in the long run,and clearly confirm for.ex the behind lyuin Gods or the cosmic automatic taos yin and yang veryfyin works. In the INERADICAPLE and inextirpable natures entirety reallity terrain,and its everlasting dance,game play and mating with itself. Amen.(Aki gigles)

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    You keep talking about the laws of physics. I thought you were going to provide evidence of Tao. I’m still waiting…

    You also keep stating that energy has always existed, even though you have no evidence of that. There is no way you can know that, as you are not able to measure eternal energy. You believe energy has always existed, and I believe God has always existed. Neither one of us has observational evidence of this, yet you continually assert that your position is based on evidence and mine is not.

    Can you not see that you have placed your faith in eternal energy?

  • Bill Pratt

    Aki,
    You definitely worship something, but you’re too blind to realize it. We all give our devotion to something, whether it’s a person, an idea, nature, money, sex, etc. What do you worship and why?

  • Bill Pratt

    The Bible does not claim to have the answer to every single moral situation. It lays out general guidelines that help us to make moral decisions. I am extremely familiar with the Bible, and I do not find any conflict between what it teaches and what I know to be true in my conscience. If you believe the Bible teaches a morality that violates our common human morality, then you simply do not understand it.

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    (I come Straight from my E-mails aki.aol.se)Try to use other synonymes than worship ,creation,and God blessetc. in any comminication with me in the future,then yuo get more positive reactions etc. from me.I dont react like a “christian” you might are used on to thouse false leading words.In the Swedish bible with I think I understand better than yuo cause yuo understand the english bible better,they say”gud sade,ljus bli till,och ljuset blev till,in yuo bible yuo should find something like “let it be light,and there was light,here are the light mensioned first in the genesis,now,are they talking off a creation off the light or a cyclic light process for.ex?Yuo se, If they talk about a cyclic light process or that light existed before god says,let it be light,I believe it or else I dont.

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    In the first mosebok Abel sacreface a animal to the lord and Cain plants, if I remember it right,How can lord allow animal sacreface inthat case?I dont accept any kind off animal sacrefaces!What about yuo?

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    On yuo tybe I find 4 mounts ago a man who converted from cristiannity to islam because he did not believe that an other person like yuo and me or Jesus can be responsible for other persons sins,only Aki are in responsibily about akis sins,not yuo or Jesus on the cross,and he was right I think,what about yuo?

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    If God can existfor ever,so can also the word,univerce,energy,natural laws etc. either with or without God.Right??!!!

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    anyway its more easy to prove and experiment etc with enercy than a god in or outside the universe.Yuo can always say that a higher entitity or been exist like yuo can add number 1 to 1 or a billion etc.without proven anything.Its only the maximum energy level with are nonproven in our univerce,not energy levels yuo can isolate like the volt among 12-13v in a car battery usually the car dont start if the volt among are outside 12-13volts,yuo should relize the yin and yang among reason to that even if yuo cannot se the + and – electrons in the battery with yuo naced eye.yuo relize there are something in stead off nothing wor king automaticly.Right?!!

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    What more exact proves off tao do yuo want?One prove on its work are yuo own existence then for.ex.Give me proves off only one living thing with can exist without energy or natural laws for ex.?!?

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    Aki dont know the real tao,but can explain his “own” tao interpretation.Tao are for.ex a study about the universe and our place etc. in it.Taoism got a central conception ,the natural forces yin and yang and yin and yangs balance.Tao emphasize the entity off the cosmos.The humanity and all living are a fragment off the wholines.Sourly yuo should agree on things like this?

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    I can explain more but I have to use swedish to save time,I use easy Swedish.:Den tao som kan beskrivas med ord är inte den sanna tao,det namnet som kan nämnas är inte det sanna namnet.Från icke-varat kallade de icke visa fram HImmel och Jord,men den visa inser att det är från det alltid varande varat som allt födds.Är man fri från begär ser men t.ex mysteriet,är man fylld av begär ser man ofta manifestationerna.Men båda dessa kommer från samma källa och avskils främst till namnet.

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    Om vi så önskar kan vi kalla denna Källa för Gud,Tao el.”mysteriet”.Mysterium efter mysterium eller varför inte den kosmiska livmodern som ger liv åt allt levande.Tao är likt en mestadels tom Bringare som man kan hälla ifrån, men som ALDRIG töms,Oändligt djup ,men KÄLLAN till allt.Vagt uppfattad ,men ändå evigt närvarande.Om den behöver att upphov,vet jag inte vad el. vem som givit upphov till den.Den är allt äldre än någon av Guds S.K. “skapelser”.

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    Himlen och jorden är opartiska,de tillåter saker att “gå hädan” och dö.Den visa är inte sentimental,då denne vet att alla varelser måste gå hädan..Rummet mellan Himlen och Jorden,påminner om en BLÅSBÄLG,det är mestadels tomt,men outtömligt.Ju mer det används,desto mer ger det.Att försöka och förklara det hela tiden,tär bara på krafterna,det är bättre att hålla fast vid paradoxen.Right?!I hope yuo can copy this,get it translated to English,then yuo relize how much I already have given yuo and explanet to yuo,even given yuo more answeers to yuo questions compered yuo answers to my diffecault guestions.I dont ask anything back, only that yuo “spread” out what are really true.Yuo dont have to unveil the suorce from where or who it comes from.Aki has spocen,hopefully for the last time here in this case.

  • Hafiz

    Hi you have a very good blog and ure open to ideas. however, have you heard about the miracles performed by Jesus (peace be upon him) from an Islamic point of view? Check out the Qur’an …

    Then will God say: ‘O Jesus the son of Mary! recount My favor to you and to your mother. Behold! I strengthened you with the Holy Spirit (the angel Gabriel) so that you did speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught you the Book and Wisdom, the Law and the Gospel. And behold: you make out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and you breathe into it, and it becomes a bird by My leave, and you heal those born blind, and the lepers by My leave. And behold! you bring forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the children of Israel from (violence to you) when you did show them the Clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: ‘This is nothing but evident magic’ (5:110).

    Just sharing (:

  • Bill Pratt

    Thanks, Hafiz. I appreciate your comment. I was aware that the Qur’an teaches that Jesus performed many miracles. This always confused me because Muhammad performs no miracles in the Qur’an, yet Muslims believe Muhammad was the greater prophet. Why is that?

    Thanks very much,
    Bill

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    Hi ,I dont know why the Muslims think Jesus was somekind off profet for.ex while the Christians think he was the son off God,that show we that thouse bouth religions are HESITATIVE to me,in a true religion that kind off “comflict” should not exist att all!Right?I gonna end this message with more tao practical principals to solve lot off earlier discussion etc. problems so we can use them to get “further”.”We can do without “doing”.Work without “force” things to happen.We can taiste without spicing.We should se the great and big things in the small things and the several in the few.We should take care off the diffecault things while they still are easy.Begin big and great work tasks why they still are small.Suorly our small planetary home Earth in our solar system and galaxy perform diffecault things easily and bring about and effect big things with small means compered with the galaxy.Throught not stive for greatness the wise one attain greatness.(Brothers etc.)If we think everything are easy,we more often gono meet diffecaulties.Thats why brother Aki.T. also can see everything as diffecault,but not necessarily EXPERIENCE anything as diffecault!!Right!!??!!”

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    “The great mighty everlasting and harmonic superreallity terrain Tao soner or later FLOWS everywhere.In every dimension we can think off and not think off.On our Earth for.ex every life form are depending on it for their own life and it dont turn away from them.When its work are done,it dont demand acknowledgement.It cover and feed and give energy to all the living and other things and dont demand that much acknowledgement.Because it dont demand so much for its own part,it seems to be off a small signification,but when for.ex all the living things so naturally and voluntarily etc. return to it,without it have to demand it,it can really be considert as Mighty,and it is only for.ex because it dont do a demand to be mighty,it can be so Mighty!Right!?!!!!!!Its looks to me that Akis tao once again have have given yuo interesting explenations to whole lot off things,and they are not easy to “count out”if yuo cannot count them out and are a true trueth saeker,who is yuo “real boss” now do yuo think?

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    About prove that someting like energy forms always existed (in our reallity terrain etc.)It is more locical that the suorce to yuo existens are everlasting energy or something else with always exist or existed,because something always result in something and nothing result in nothing,nothing dont result in something.Its more locical that the suorce to the bein,existing or energy etc. are something always present than that it exist sometimes or comes from nothing.Its also more locical that the world or the suorce to the world always exist than that it exist sometimes and sometimes not,becuase the suorce in the long run to yuo own cyclic existense cannot be NOThing!This is what my own and the real tao say,but this dont mean that im 100%taoist either.

  • http://aki@aol.se Aki Tuomaala

    Aki.T.konfusius,Lau tzu and Buddha etc. never meant we are the son off God and only trought us yuo can come to Heaven.But I think Jesus say or mean in the Christian bible that he,Jesus are the Only son off the real God and truoght only Jesus yuo can come to Heaven!And I (Aki.T.)cannot believe in that for.ex in Christiannity,thats one huge step to why I cannot be a Christian.Then I dont believe threre are a God who cares about us because off the natural catasrofies(tsunamies and eartguages etc.)with happen,or else that god dont care or are powerfull enaught to stop earthquages or when our sun becames a redgiant and destruy and swallow the whole earth.No Jesus etc is gonna come back and save us from our selfes or Naturalcatastrofies etc,there are still no real proves by the way outside the fairy tales off the bible that Jesus for ex. existed at all!!

  • http://www.facebook.com/tommarroww Joshua Dale

    Science is very lacking in this area of understanding. All we have is circumstantial evidence, hypothesis, and ancient books on the subject. The more quantum physics studies this area, the more they are saying what the Bible already says on the subject. It is often said that God created everything out of nothing but this is typically because we don’t view words as something. However, in Hebrew word, debar (דבר) means both ‘word’ and ‘thing’. Plainly stated, when God spoke, He released pure energy from Himself creating everything. Science is finally beginning to understand this. Everything begins with the unseen, aka spiritual, aka frequency. Its manifestation is the seen, aka physical, aka substance.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tommarroww Joshua Dale

    The pattern of Muhammads life tells us it’s fist because of deception followed by opression.

  • http://www.facebook.com/tommarroww Joshua Dale

    No, time can only exist when we have mass and matter. The Hebrew expression for forever is l’olam v’ed or forever and ever. It is use to describe the existence of something beyond the constraints of time, mass and matter. God is not composed of mass and matter thus He isn’t constrained by time and exists beyond forever.

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